If No God

If there is no God, then why are so many called to live by a higher standard?
Some aren't.
If some aren't, why are some?
People are just different.
Why are people different?
They just are - rocks are different. Trees are different. They just are.
Who made the rocks and trees?
They've always been. Nobody 'made' them.
So the sandwich you ate for lunch has always been?
That sandwich was made. Not all things are made.
That is a speculative statement. If something is - and is made - the implication is that all things that are - are made.
Creation then is the answer? If something was made then there must be God?
If something was made, who else made it?
So there's God. So what? Why should He care about us?
He made us.
He made the rocks and trees, yet they are destroyed every day to make kitty litter and toilet paper.
Maybe He delegated the rocks and trees to our care, to make things with - like your sandwich.
There's still no proof He cares about us. We die, just as trees die.
So that's it? We are created - we die - the end?
It seems so.
What a shallow creation for an awesomely powerful God.
I think so, too.
What about spirits? What are they?
Figments of the imagination.
Oh come now. Figments? How can you say that with all that has been reported?
Do you believe in UFO's?
I believe there are unidentified phenomenon. Whether it be extra-terrestrial is irrelevant.
Do you believe in life after death?
Yes - do you?
Once again, figments of the imagination. The mind is a powerful thing.
Again, it seems an amazingly huge achievement for God to invent the mind, to fill it over a lifetime, and then kill it in the end.
Agreed. We seem to agree on much of this.
But I don't agree.
But you just said...
You assume that what you see is the whole truth.
And you assume that what you see is not the whole truth.
Scientific evidence points in my favor. There are things unseen that are nevertheless true.
Give an example.
Microbes.
Microbes can be seen - with a microscope.
Okay, wind.
Wind can be seen. Just throw a feather in the air.
No, you are only seeing the effects of wind upon the feather. You aren't seeing the wind.
But I can feel the wind, I do not need to see it.
Oh, as long as you can verify something with one of your senses then it must be so?
That's correct.
What if you are deaf? Does that mean there is no such thing as sound?
I'm not deaf.
But some people are.
There's no such thing as sound to them.
You're being blaze' - and dodging the point.
Okay, I'll conceded that there are some things that are not verifiable with my senses, yet they are still true.
What if God is that way? What if He only appeals to a sense you have not yet employed?
Then He must not care if I really know Him or not.
That is another assumption.
Oh? What have I assumed?
You have assumed that the reason it's not 'easy' to sense God with your senses is that He does not care if you ever sense Him.
That does seem clear.
What if God wants desperately for you to take a step into something uncomfortable so that you will sense Him and He can relate to you?
That seems like a long shot.
What if?
Okay. Like what... stepping off a building? Would that be uncomfortable enough?
No, not like that. But on the other hand - yes - similar. Faith.
Faith?
Yes. Faith.
Faith in what? That if I die I will meet Him?
No. Much sooner. Faith that as soon as you believe in Him, you will see Him.
Once again - that seems a bit backwards. Seeing is believing.
Isn't it possible to see something that you don't believe?
Yes, I supposed it is. Figments...
Right. So seeing isn't necessarily believing, then.
Believing first still seems backwards.
What if that was all that were required of God to reveal Himself to you?
A creator with a stipulation. Does that seem right?
If He created you, don't you owe Him something?