Monday, October 27, 2008

Initial thoughts on "We Need Something Real"

I agree, however, at what point are we making it about our agenda versus succumbing to His agenda? I mean, to pray expectantly, is to pray in confidence that He can do it be it His will and He chooses to do so, however, aren't we in essence crossing the line and demanding Him to do what we request at that point?

Also agree about the studies as though many may bring an idea or two here and there, most are ideal for newfound believers. In that role the routines are almost critical to launching the basic foundations for many, or so it appears to be. If the new believers forgo the basics, they'll be captivated by the spirit for a moment, then end up more confused and potentially in a worse place than they were prior to the brief experience. This is where the experiential has got to be met with knowledge of His word.

The question is this - How do we intertwine the basics with the more intense and nurture all who seek Him in a way that leads to more growth in the faith? The moment we fail to seek and plant the basic seeds in others is the moment we've become too absorbed in self growth and lose the ability to seek helping those that need Him most - the great commission becomes second rate to self growth, though, certainly not intentionally...... Isn't there something wrong with this? It just doesn't appear as glossy when looking underneath the surface.

If we can not do this, then, to cater only to the "seasoned" believers cripples the ability to anoint the newcomers in the faith because their lack of understanding would create havoc beyond simply challenging them to go to the next level as more often than not, it would likely be too far outside of the comfort zone to radiate with their spiritual state and we all know when that happens, the results that follow are also usually not what we intended.

For example, if someone were to speak aloud in tongues many times during a sermon, however, technically praying much of that time, thus, there are two primary schools of thought here and both have valid points. One - He was praying in tongues and really shouldn't have prayed out loud in front of the audience because there was no interpretation of the tongue to discern. Two - He was praying in tongues and though he happened to be praying out loud, since it was prayer, no interpretation was needed. Well, both of these views have valid points that can be based on scripture. This is one example of an opportunity that may serve to confuse rather than sanctify and uplift. Particularly in those newcomers..... For example, most children simply can not comprehend the difference no matter how many times it is explained. Take a new couple of believers with a few young children in attendance to an event like this. It is highly unlikely the family would be able to understand His presence. That said, we can say "they aren't ready" but to do so would be just as bad as closing the doors to someone in need of just enough water to live and rejecting them, without the intention of doing so.

Does this make sense? It's almost like we have to choose who to cater to and if that is the case we should always choose in favor of the new believer or even non believer because forgoing those would be like quitting our job but still receiving the rewards as if we still worked there.

Any thoughts to the blog readers?

1 comment:

Stevie J said...

This is the cautious approach. We don't want to 'step on Gods toes' so to speak. After all... we'd hate for Him to do something He didn't want to do, right?

Have you ever noticed that really doesn't work? You can most-definitely ask Him to do something that is not His perfect will to do, and He may or may not grant your request. That happened to Hezekiah.

The difference is... are we co-laboring with God? If so, then our will has become His will. Then whatever you ask, He will do - that IS what He said.

This is certainly not the missionary baptist way... but when Jesus said 'ask anything in My Name and I will do it', then that tells me it's okay to ask. It's okay to ask. Need to ask? It's cool. Ask. He said "I will do it." That means... EXPECT Him to do it. BUT.. He also IMMEDIATELY says this:

Joh 14:14-15
(14) If you ask anything in My Name, I will do it.
(15) If you love Me, keep My commandments.

If you are living like the devil and ignoring the commandments of God... you can still ask. Just don't expect much.